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AREA 52 AND ALL THE FUSS ABOUT A BUOY AND NET.

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AREA 52 AND ALL THE FUSS ABOUT A BUOY AND NET.

Post by HAPPYANGLERALEX on Tue Jul 02, 2013 4:27 pm

Ref the angst about area 52 and an alleged net stopping free Thames carp from being free, and being trapped in a lake via an inlet,  here it is.

so.... where is the net???



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Re: AREA 52 AND ALL THE FUSS ABOUT A BUOY AND NET.

Post by Guest on Wed Jul 03, 2013 11:31 am

Alex - you have hit the nail on the proverbial head

on Cemex people are claiming to have seen the net first hand but not one can produce a photograph which says a lot to me?

as for comments about going to cut the net etc - there is silly and downright idiotic!

truth be told I think the OP on there has an 'agenda' - and correct me if i'm wrong but this is the same guy who DEMANDED that Cemex delete his account and remove all his posts but can't resist coming back to bring up this subject amongst others?

probably better left to Facebook etc as I cannot see the guy who runs the fishery getting onto CEMEX to put forward his point of view?

I've a bit of experience of 'marina's/lakes' connected to the River Trent - all in my experience  have substantial stocks of resident carp and the number that enter these areas from the main river for spawning etc seems to be very low?

looking at Area 52 from Sat images i'd suggest any self respecting carp would find the marina/lake a preferable habitat to that of the river - more feed/basking and spawning areas/no current to fight etc etc

I saw the original thread disappeared from CEMEX and has re-surfaced this morning - whats that about?

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Post by Guest on Wed Jul 03, 2013 11:43 am

one other point - to put in place a net that would stop a determined fish entering or leaving would be impossible unless is was 'pegged' to the lake/river bed at bottom and sides!

I've been involved in commercial netting and seen first hand how carp and other fish can escape the net even as the final 'draw' is being completed - inc jumping over the net!

and these are pro nets with a 'leaded' bottom line supposed to hug the bottom contours

and how would any such net work during a flood - a time when many would argue that fish movement is at its highest?

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Post by HAPPYANGLERALEX on Wed Jul 03, 2013 4:13 pm

If they are advertised as "Thames carp" that means they swim in and out of the "lake/Thames" of their own free will.

from their site.

AREA 52

(Home of the Thames “40”)

This is your chance to purchase a truly English carp fishing experience.  With water to suit all styles of angler, from intimate shallow bays to deep gulleys, open water to island snags and weed beds.  This enables us to offer truly exclusive and private fishing.  Not to be matched by any fisheries on the true Thames.

Note, these venues are not suitable for the novice/pleasure angler, but is “bang on” for the “specimen hunter” and the hard core carp angler.

The stock is relatively unknown, but the stock appears to increase yearly, with fish captured up to 46lb (common), but bigger fish have been lost!  This also adds to the mystery!

With only one angler fishing, there has been no angling pressure for many years and with four different fish exceeding the ‘40’ mark and dozens approaching the magic number, what else is waiting to be landed?  With many of these fish never seeming to leave area (52).  “Is your name on one of them?”

All visitors will have a memorable visit.  On-site bailiff 24 hours a day at all times, personal guilles/guides can be arranged for the duration of your stay.  Pre-baiting can be arranged and bait can be supplied.  Particles, nuts, etc, freshly cooked and ready on your arrival.  Freezer facility for bait etc.  Cold store also available.

There is secure parking, gated access.

We are still offering the Area 52 syndicate at a introductory price of £750.00, should you have any questions or would like a viewing please don't hesitate to contact me.. Trevor on 07901987043 or [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]. Or you can call Steve at Woodley tackle box on 01189 449922. Limited space left.

Area 52 can be exclusively booked by individuals at a negotiated price.

Extended trips can be arranged, Thames rod licence(s) will be required and can be arranged on request.

The fish and I look forward to seeing you
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Re: AREA 52 AND ALL THE FUSS ABOUT A BUOY AND NET.

Post by HAPPYANGLERALEX on Wed Jul 03, 2013 6:37 pm

Its become a ZEN KOAN-------------"THE NET OF NO NET"



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Re: AREA 52 AND ALL THE FUSS ABOUT A BUOY AND NET.

Post by Guest on Thu Jul 04, 2013 11:50 am

Alex - me being my usual pedantic self i'd say if they are in a body of water that is part of/connected to the Thames then they are Thames fish?

not that i'd give a jot - they are fish!

seen some bright (not too?) spark has started quoting legislation about 'fixed engines' - very dangerous when you don't understand the law

fishery law is extremely complex because much of it is very old - the EA even need to consult specialists - I have an excellent contact for English 'fishing' law who is a solicitor but also the legal advisor to a major East Midlands angling club with both their own and leased waters

because of my time running my salmon fishery in Scotland i'm very well versed in Scottish Law (one of my main clients was a solicitor as was my ex)

under Scottish Law a rod on a rod rest is a 'fixed engine' - so pretty much all coarse anglers are breaking the law as are salmon anglers trolling on the lochs- but sensibly the law is not enforced

also in Scotland the law only permits fishing with a 'single rod and line' so pike anglers and salmon anglers trolling multi rod set ups are illegal

i'd hazard a guess that the law has not been amended in England and the same probably applies?

as an aside - in Scotland the laws on 'poaching' are archaic - for example a man on his own is a less serious offence than two men - and if you 'cover your face' that makes it far more serious

anyway,going back to area 52 - its showing a total change in carp anglers attitudes to 'river carp'

most are too young to remember but from the 1970's rivers were viewed as free for all stock ponds and taking river carp to stock fisheries was the norm - it was widespread and even encouraged

i'm in Notts and hand on heart i'd say that over 90% of 'carp waters' here have Trent carp to a greater or lesser degree - some waters even had no carp before Trent fish were introduced

here you can tell the waters that have had major Trent stockings because of the high number of commons (Trent was very much a commons river)

take A1 pits a water I know like the back of my hand - hundreds of carp have been moved from the river to the lakes - the adjacent stretch of the Trent is under the same ownership as the lakes

at last anglers are seeing the value of the river stocks 30+ years too late?

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Re: AREA 52 AND ALL THE FUSS ABOUT A BUOY AND NET.

Post by Guest on Thu Jul 04, 2013 12:48 pm

deleted - not really relevant


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Re: AREA 52 AND ALL THE FUSS ABOUT A BUOY AND NET.

Post by Bob on Fri Jul 05, 2013 7:52 am

nick h

Lets get it right, it's not Cemex any more, it's The Anglers Forum.

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Re: AREA 52 AND ALL THE FUSS ABOUT A BUOY AND NET.

Post by HAPPYANGLERALEX on Fri Jul 05, 2013 9:09 am

Bob wrote:nick h

Lets get it right, it's not Cemex any more, it's The Anglers Forum.

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Can a leopard change its spots? Very Happy 
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Re: AREA 52 AND ALL THE FUSS ABOUT A BUOY AND NET.

Post by Guest on Fri Jul 05, 2013 10:06 am

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Re: AREA 52 AND ALL THE FUSS ABOUT A BUOY AND NET.

Post by chris63 on Fri Jul 05, 2013 11:59 am

To be honest does it matter what the old site is called or what they discuss. we all have the option to go on it and join in or ignore as we wish.

Hopefully this site, with its emphasis on the community that supports Macmillan through fishing, will avoid some of the more mindless debates of the other site and will concentrate on all things positive in fishing as well as sharing experiences and knowledge between like minded individuals.

Obviously anything within reason can be discussed here, and good debate is always enjoyable, but I hope we manage to keep mindless arguments away.

This is not a dig at anyone on here by the way.
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Re: AREA 52 AND ALL THE FUSS ABOUT A BUOY AND NET.

Post by Humbers on Fri Jul 05, 2013 3:24 pm

chris63 wrote:To be honest does it matter what the old site is called or what they discuss. we all have the option to go on it and join in or ignore as we wish.

Hopefully this site, with its emphasis on the community that supports Macmillan through fishing, will avoid some of the more mindless debates of the other site and will concentrate on all things positive in fishing as well as sharing experiences and knowledge between like minded individuals.

Obviously anything within reason can be discussed here, and good debate is always enjoyable, but I hope we manage to keep mindless arguments away.

This is not a dig at anyone on here by the way.

Why is it a 'mindless debate'?
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Re: AREA 52 AND ALL THE FUSS ABOUT A BUOY AND NET.

Post by HAPPYANGLERALEX on Fri Jul 05, 2013 7:06 pm

a mindless debate is a debate about nothing of consequence, or general interest.

meaningless trivia, moronic conversation, low IQ input, retrograde boring crap, etc.

we need more chaps from MENSA posting.Very Happy 


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